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Converting Internet
radio into a 'sound'
search engine for
learning & listening

by Jim Trelease

So there you are, driving along, listening to National Public Radio. Suddenly you realize the interview you're listening to (for example, an ex-advertising executive is explaining the techniques Madison Avenue uses to trick people into buying what they really don't need) would be perfect for the unit you do every year on advertising. If only you had a tape recorder in the front seat!

spacer    microphone image Cheer up: You do! True, there are podcasts available via either an NPR station or from iTunes, but those are not searchable by subject. The method I'm describing here is archived and indexed and available as:

  1. Sound files (that can be listened to (and copied) for free
  2. Text transcripts (fee)
  3. Cassette recordings (fee)
  4. Or you can use the free method explained below.

real audio   NPR maintains an extensive searchable database that will allow you to search by date or subject. Once the file is located (see below), you can freely listen to it, using the audio player RealAudio (a free plugin for both Macs and PCs).

    Once you determine it's the show you want, you can decide what kind of copy you want. Some stations, like WNYC in New York City, provide you with a link to an MP3 file to download, but that's rare. Most of the time you'll find a link to LISTEN to the show on the Web. If you're using it for your own personal use or only once in  the classroom, you can just record it off the Web (more on that below). For multiple classroom use or in the library, copyright law requires you to purchase either the transcript or cassette. With the show's date and time in hand (below), go to www.npr.org/transcripts/index.html. There you'll find the following options:

  • Transcript of an individual NPR story
    (Delivered immediately online as a print-ready page.)
    Single transcript: $5.95
    5 transcripts: $14.95
           Select up to 5 stories within 30 days of the first purchase date
    25 transcripts: $29.95
           Select up to 25 stories within one year of the first purchase date
  • Transcript of one hour of an NPR program
    $18.00 each, e-mailed, mailed, or faxed to you.
  • Cassette tape of one hour of an NPR program
    $23.00 each, mailed to you.
  • NPR Series available by cassette tape, CD or transcript.
    Prices vary, as do the transcript procedures; some of the
              NPR affiliates charge less for such services.

Available shows for searching

   The shows in the box below are indexed daily at the NPR archives, with most ignored by Google indexing. But many other local NPR affiliates are ignored by the NPR archives and can only be searched at their local sites. Four of the best of those include: Leonard Lopate; Diane Rehm; Forum-Michael Krasny; and OnPoint-Tom Ashbrook. You can visit their archives at any time and pour through the list of interviews and listen at your leisure. I scan both the NPR national and local archives weekly and add the best to a master list here at my Web site.

  
Click on Interview List to see the master list of links to authors and educator interviews available online, including Avi, J. K. Rowling, Kate DiCamillo, Lemony Snicket, Lois Lowry, Jon Sczieska, Christopher Paul Curtis, and Gary Paulsen.

To find the show you're looking for on NPR:

   For one, you can always use the links provided in the yellow box above. Or, open your Web browser, and enter this url: www.npr.org/archives/index?
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   The NPR archive will open, and at the top you'll find something that looks like this:

       npr search bar
  Hold-clicking on the white area "NPR programming" drops down a menu of more than a dozen NPR shows from which you can select one (see below) and click the "go" button. On the other hand, if you wish to search all the available shows' databases for a general topic, enter the subject in the smaller white area to the right (as I did above with the words "children's reading"), then click "search" button.
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    A search of all available databases for the subject "Children's books" turned up more than 120 features dating back to 1998. Similarly, a search for NPR "Obits" (one of my favorite features) returned a treasure trove of  four-minute obituaries done by NPR reporters on famous people who recently had died.
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    Some of the regional NPR stations have their own databases that cannot be searched effectively via the main NPR site. Those would be stations like WNYC (New York), WAMU (Washington, DC), KPCC (Pasadena), WBEZ (Chicago), and MPR (Minnesota Public Radio). Those you would search by going directly to the individual home pages and clicking on the "archives" or "Past Shows" page, which sometimes requires a little searching in the forest of tiny type they love to squeeze onto home pages. If you click on hidden archive, you'll see an example of how one show tucks away the archives on its home page.
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    At the more sophisticated sites, you can search by subject, but many of the local stations only allow searches by date, though such surfing can be pleasingly serendipitous. For example, there are few interviewers anywhere who are better than Diane Rehm. Based in Washington, DC, at WAMU, her two-hour morning show is the prime spot for national movers, shakers, writers, and thinkers. They not only love to appear on her show, they also listen to it avidly at home and work. To the intellectually curious, scrolling down the chart of her archived shows is like a kid being given an open-ended gift card to the best toy shop in town. To find any city's NPR stations online, go to: www.npr.org/stations/.

Another show worth noting: "The Story" with Dick Gordon, formerly of Boston's "The Connection." Gordon's theory is simple—everyone has a story, some longer than others, some shorter, but therer's a story lurking in everyone's life. What sets this shjow apart from some others that have tried the same idea is Dick Gordon. Few people in the business know how to unravel a guest's story or make them feel more comfortable while doing it. An example would be his interview with Rodolfo Acevedo who emigrated to the U.S. from Agentina. He came with the trtaining of an achitect but the only job he could find was waiting tables in a Florida restaurant. But he "waited" with a determination to succeed in America. At the time of the interview, four new U.S. Citizenship & Immigration buildings were being built in Florida. The lead architect is Acevedo. The story is the epitomy of the American immigrant. When you click on the "listen" link at the site, it automatically downloads an mp3 file of the show to your computer.

   Needless to say, for someone teaching or studying almost any subject, this database is a treasure trove. RSS feeds (which stands for Really Simple Syndication) allows you to subscribe to an alert system informing you of each day's programming topics for most NPR shows (as well as daily newspapers like The New York Times). If you have an iPod or its equivalent, you can download each day's podcasts or have them appear for your consideration in your iTunes menu and then decide if you want to upload them to your iPod. Most of the top NPR shows are also available as podcasts. The disadvantage of podcasts is they are not archives in a searchable database. they just appear in a two-week list. To see a complete listing of all available shows (including a button on which you can click to subscribe for for a podcast), go to: www.npr.org/rss/podcast/podcast_detail.php?siteId=7060034. You can also find the podcasts listed online in iTunes.

Recording procedures

   Suppose you took an hour to browse through the archives, bookmarked your favorite items in either your browser or RealAudio, and then burned them to your hard disk or taped them on a cassette recorder (plugging your recorder's line into the microphone input jack on your computer). Either the CD or the audiocassette would both enlighten your mind and lighten the load of a dull commute or long drive to visit relatives.
spacerhijack icontotal recorder art    Unlike text files or images, "streaming audio" files cannot be directly downloaded to disk. (If you try to to save them to disk, all you get is the link.) They also take up large amounts of disk space unless you can store them as MP3 files. Two applications now allow you to copy audio directly onto your hard disk, either as AIFF or MP3 files. For Mac users, the program to use is Audio Hijack Pro ($16-$30); for PC users, there are two choices: Total Recorder ($11-$38) and Replay Radio ($30). All three applications allow you to even set timers so any program broadcast via the Internet can be copied without your even being awake or in town. (Additional radio recording applications: for PC's, Audiostreamer [www.rmbsoft.com/as.asp]; and AudioXtract [www.audioxtract.com]; and for MACs: Radio Lover [www.bitcartel.com/radiolover/]); and Ambrosia Software offers WireTap Pro ($19) which can do only some of the things that Audio Hijack can do but will do them for PCs and well as MACs. But Audio Hijack Pro remains the premier product of the lot.

   If you have a CD burner, it's an easy step with Roxio's Toast to either burn an MP3 disk or convert MP3 to AIFF files that will play on a normal CD player.

NOT TO BE MISSED!

Teachers and principals are always looking for convincing messages to share with at-risk families. The following interviews on the Web spotlight great achievers who overcame great obstacles. More such shows can be found here at Interviews.


From Poverty to Carnegie President

gregorian artFor more than 20 years he's been one of America's premier cultural leaders: from classical scholar to leading the world's busiest library (NY Public) out of near bankruptcy to president of Brown University to president of the Carnegie Corporation. Few realize the humble beginnings of Vartan Gregorian's journey from childhood impoverishment in Iran. His story is one of inspiration and courage, trademarks of American immigration. (His grandmother should be the patron saint of grandparenting.) Listen to his interview with Gail Harris of Boston public radio's "The Connection" May 12, 2003.

From Refugee Camp to Harvard

tran imageHarvard is the most difficult college to gain entrance to in America. To attain that distinction even via the privileged suburbs is a major achievement but to reach it from a Thailand refugee camp by way of a New York city hardware store is almost inconceivable. Listen to 24-year-old Van Tran tell his story to NPR's Scott Simon. (7 mins., Weekend Edition, June 5, 2004). Two weeks later, The New York Times covered the same story. "From Hardware to Harvard in a Few Hard Years," by Lynda Richardson, June 22, 2004; www.nytimes.com/2004/06/22/nyregion/22profile.html.

The Library Route to Pulitzer Prize

dirda imageHe grew up in a working class family in an Ohio steel town and until he was in fifth grade his teachers thought he was slightly retarded. He'd never eaten in a restaurant until a beloved teacher treated him in his senior year of high school. Nonetheless, Michael Dirda earned the 1993 Pulitzer Prize for criticism as a senior Washington Post Book Week editor.
   Listen to Diane Rehm's interview with Dirda about his memoir An Open Book and his journey from Hardy Boys at the library to one of today's most encyclopedic literary minds. You also can chat live online (or read archived chats) with Dirda at: www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/liveonline/style/books/dirdaonbooks/.

From Chauffeur to President's Counselor

vernon jordan imageHe was the only African-American in his college class. His college summers were spent as a chauffeur-butler for an aristocratic Southern family that was shocked that he could read. Yet Vernon Jordan would become a young lawyer helping to integrate the University of Georgia, president of the Urban League, survivor of an assassin's bullet, and counsel to not only a president of the United States but also to the wealthiest leaders in corporate America. Listen as he tells his life story to Diane Rehm (55 minutes). including where he describes the frank exchange between father and son when his unlettered parents delivered him to college, knowing his reading scores were lower than those of his classmates. A two-minute mp3 excerpt is available online here at Jordan.

Check out BBC 7 's children's shows

If NPR has an achilles heel, it's in children's programming. By comparison with British Broadcasting, America's effort is embarrassing. Fortunately, more than a hour a day of the BBC's programming for children is available on the Web at any time of day. For preschoolers, check out "CBeebies Radio." For older students, "The Big Toe Radio Show" isn't as easily accessible daily but its chapter books can be heard independently at Big Toe Books. Simply click on the chapter and listen (or download using on the applications listed above). The British readers on both shows are good examples of readers aloud, although the accents may take some getting used to. Book selections are mostly British with a few American titles like Because of Winn-Dixie sprinkled in. The book selections stay posted for one week and then disappear daily, chapter by chapter. This allows people who miss a particular day's broadcast to catch up later.


CAUTION:
Avoid listening to this while driving!

   While humor is not NPR's long suit, it does occasionally surface. Dame Edna artMy personal all-time favorite was Scott Simon's "Weekend Edition" interview in 2003 with Dame Edna Everage (that outrageous champion of political incorrectness created by female impersonator Barry Humphries). Half the fun of this 30-minute interview is listening to Scott Simon falling off his chair with laughter. Having been forewarned (so don't blame me), the audio link is:
      www.npr.org/ramfiles/wesat/20030125.wesat.dameedna.

 

A fast-growing download option!

audible icon   Anyone observing the behavior of commuters in the USA would declare it a "drive-time audio nation." Even among those who are commuting solely as passengers, increasing numbers are now hooked up to portable audio devices, with MP3 players in the fastest-growing category.Add to this audience the hundreds of thousands who drive long haul trucks, as well as the millions who exercise regularly, one sees immediately the huge potential for the U.S. to become a "downloaded" nation. One company has moved to the front in this regard — audible.com. After only a few years in business, this New Jersey-based company is offering spoken word products from 165 publishers, amounting to 45,000 hours of valuable spoken word audio, and its customer base is now at more than 350,000. Not only is audible.com offering standard audio fare like popular novels, but also a broad array of NPR programming like "All things Considered," "Prairie Home Companion", and "Car Talk" — all available for download as MP3 files for either Mac or PC and each can be uploaded to your MP3 player for on-the-go listening.


Before there were iPods or NPR, there was 'Old Time Radio'

old time radio catalogne of my favorite things to do when my children were growing up in the 70's was to gather them around the stereo or tape deck and listen to old time radio dramas on albums or audiocassette. It stimulated their imaginations far better than anything they saw on television, since radio required the listener to imagine how everyone looked, how they were dressed, and even what they were doing. That could amount to a lot of mental effort in just one episode of "The Lone Ranger" or "The Green Hornet."

   Now for the good news: Thousands of those old shows are now available on MP3 disks that can be either uploaded to an iPod, played on common CD/MP3 players, or converted to regular CD's with the applications listed above. For example, as many as 43 hours (90 shows) of "The Lone Ranger" on one CD can be bought for just for just $5 (less than 6 cents a show). Check out the mammoth listing of old-time radio shows at: OTR Catalog.

 

BBC—the world's leading 'publisher' of original fiction

ost people's idea of the BBC is through Public Broadcasting offerings of "Masterpiece Theater" and the like. The rich world of BBC radio is lost on such people and that's a shame. The BBC leads the world in the commissioning of original fiction, offering more than seven hours a day of readings and dramas. The selection dwarfs anything NPR could dream of doing here. There are short stories, nonfiction readings, dramas, biographies, book discussion groups, book reviews, and classic serials. To top it off, the performers and readers are among the best in the world. To see the full range of offering, go to the Arts and Drama master list and start bookmarking. I might also add that two of my regular shows for recording are Last Word (a weekly obituary show) and Friday Night Is Music Night (110 minutes of live concert music for everyone). Also see the BBC children's offerings above. Keep in mind that the BBC does not archive most of its shows for more than a week. (It's an island, remember? Not much storage space.)

 

For more on audio books, see AUDIO.

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